This was a fun chat with Tom and D! Real-life scenarios and questions about

• AI and intellectual property

• parodies, infringement and fair use

• the biggest legal landmines for entertainment professionals

• Colorado Sundance 🤩

• how to get pro bono legal help as a creative

You're welcome to eavesdrop on our conversation at Tom and D Episode 4!

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tom-and-d/id1813211468?i=1000713200527 

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2wQL90bPPxjnBES4oZHvdu?si=ti58FtH_RjqGHudTx_6r0g 

It’s available on all platforms, wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts.

About Tom and D

Hosts Tom Fry and Deren Abram swap stories, roast each other, and dive into the messy, hilarious world of entertainment, business, and the business of entertainment. They also welcome a mystery guest—an industry insider, a rising star, or just someone with a great story—because, honestly, surprises make everything better.

Follow @thetomanddpodcast on Instagram to catch their latest episodes!